About Anarchy
Roberta has another post here about anarchy.
I should think that my recent exchange with Billy Beck would have dissuaded her of the notion that people are capable of being civil, but that aside, let’s get down to the nitty of this gritty.
1: If anarchism could work, it would already be, somewhere.
2: if people were capable of civility, there would be no courts system
3: Ayn Rand is the worlds biggest fucktard, and anyone who reads that drivel and thinks “Genius!” needs to have a check-up-from-the-neck-up.
See, ‘Atlas Shrugged” is a fantasy. JUST a fantasy. Those things can never happen, will never happen.
The whole genre, everything written by that dipstick and promoted by her cult of personality is the biggest setback to true conservatism and classical liberalism since the election of that king of fucktards, FDR.
See, the formula that is needed for the best that America can be, is the representative republic we have, with a healthy dose of true conservatism, that is to say, the tendency to conserve, to hold steady, to prevent the growth of government, and classical liberalism- that is to say, the promotion of as much freedom as can generally be managed.
Anarchism or objectivisim, the bong water of political idealism, is fine- so long as everyone remains civil.
yeah, right.
Roberta is the very model of civility, and because she is a decent person, she assumes others will be as well.
I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, once. Once they’ve had the chance to screw me, and they do, they don’t get another chance. And it’s rare that someone doesn’t.
I have a lot of people, know a lot of people, who are decent and good humans. But I have been dealing with the general public since my first gig bagging groceries over thirty years ago, and I can absolutely guarantee you this: People are asses. Given the opportunity, they will misbehave. Every Single Time.
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Indeed. And ethics seem to have gone out the window. For instance is seems lying is OK now – unless you get caught. So while you may be working hard to be as honest as you can, that SOB you’re dealing with may well be lying through their teeth.
“3: Ayn Rand is the worlds biggest fucktard, and anyone who reads that drivel and thinks ‘Genius!’ needs to have a check-up-from-the-neck-up.”
Thank you! Been saying that for years. As I said somewhere else not long ago, I used to think Rand was all that…until I grew up.
Grew up is the key phrase here. Og had a good dad and he showed him how to grow up. If Og had no dad or an absent dad he may have grown up anyway, but all we know for sure is that lots of folks with AWOL dads manage to grow up and be fine adults.
But anti-government types who hate cops – I can guarantee you – are just angry children who are projecting their childhood angst and frustration at daddy onto the government, military, police, industry. Anything that is a suitable surrogate for the daddy image.
“and classical liberalism- that is to say, the promotion of as much freedom as can generally be managed.â€
Yes! ‘As can generally be managed’ is the key, isn’t it?
If the adult world was filled with mature and moral (well… the Christian code of ‘moral’) we would need far less government. But with the Sunday sermons of the past centuries being replaced by 30 minute homilies every night from the Secular Humanist (and other types of beliefs) Mass Media, we are increasingly degenerating into a much more fractured (‘morally’) world. Imho.
…and one thing that the liberals do NOT understand: rules are NOT a moral code. Rules to the a-moral are merely impediments to whatever ‘vending machine’ they are trying to break into. The completely degenerated (a-moral) man is an animal. With weapons. No… less than an animal, since he is conscious of the divine and refuses it.
Something to think about for people who think the police are not necessary.
For the record Og, I agree: ALL men cast a shadow (evil) – even those men who are at their High Noon. The best we can do is acknowledge that we are capable of evil, acknowledge our shadows personally and try protect our friends of our own shadows (even telling the best of friends your short suits – if possible/prudent).
As I have said to my own mother: It is IMPORTANT that you always have your own widows-mite, to never let yourself be completely financially prostrate to anyone, thereby becoming dependent on someone – even from me. Sure I would help you, but what form will it take? And how will I treat you? Even I do not know how I will see you or treat you when you become a helpless dependent in my household. I guess that is the darkside of… respect.
As a side note: I pity the woman who marries a man and becomes a housewife in this sad and amoral era; and does not have scary relatives to keep the husband in line.
Og, I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed with you so dramatically. This will be the subject of a series of Eternity Road essays.
Treat everyone with civility and respect but have a plan to kill evryone you meet.
Works for the marines, works for me.
On another note, if some childish individual tells me that anarchy is the wave of the future and I should be ready for it I punch him dead in the face and take his shoes and then ask him how anarchy is working for him now.
That will usually square him right up.
Man, and I have “Atlas Shrugged” next in the reading list. It’s a big book. But like “The Prince,” I may just go ahead and read it anyway so I’m not like those idjits who quote from books and comment on books they’ve not even read in digest form. Maybe there’s a nugget of good in the poop pile worth getting my arm soiled over reaching in for.
Now you’ve inspired me to write about anarchy, too. I needed that, for I’m in a writing block from lack of good subject matter. Well, off to do that before the coffeehouse closes …
Mr Porretto, with all due respect, before you wander off into a series of essays only people- like yourself- with 200 plus IQ’s can even read, let alone understand- please tell me one place where the Ayn Rand Objectivist model has worked on a large scale. Or a small scale. We can certainly disagree on the book. I know those people are of interest to you, but they are all the merest fictions, and they do not exist in the real world, and their actions, in the real world, are thoroughly impossible.
If this is not the disagreement to which you refer, pardom me for my misunderstanding. Yours is a huge and powerful brain, and i respect it in every conceivable way- with the full knowledge that it is human and capable of error. Just like mine.
On the subject of obectivisim and anarchy, I would dearly love for anyone to prove me wrong, and I am open to any genuine demonstrations that i am. I can cite an inordinate amount of data proving me correct. I await your counter with some anticipation, but remember this is not chess. I never play any game I am not certain of winning.
Hmm… Fran disagrees. I am entirely curious as to WHAT he disagrees with in your arguments. He sure is being a tease, isn’t he?
Power Corrupts. Corruption and its kinetic force called temptation.
Having a moral code dampens the tendency towards corruption – and so does being the victim of corruption. But the corrosive and unidirectional draw that corruption has when you are in a powerful and unchecked position has a certain negative inevitability if given enough time.
We really are not well equipped to have complete power over each other. Maybe this is one reason why we instinctually crave freedom.
Cond, I’m seriously curious myself. I lurve Mr P, and he does have a HUGE brain. And I know he’s a fan of Rand, but I’ll try not to hold that against him.
This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 12/28/2008, at The Unreligious Right
Well, actually, Anarchism does work. There have been many Anarchist societies throughout time. And even if there weren’t, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. I’m sure you like democracy – There were no democratic societies for thousands of years. Ever hear of a Monarch? Does that mean democracy doesn’t work? Also, maybe there aren’t many Anarchist societies around, because at the moment we have leaders who maintain power, they aren’t exactly giving that power up.
If you had done some research other than talking to other people who dislike Anarchy you might have learned something. Then we all could of avoided the pleasure of hearing you mindlessly bitch about Anarchy on some blog.
Yes Ayn Rand is a fucktard – though I’m not sure what that has to do with Anarchism because she rejected Anarchism hugely… (Again with the research.)
So finally, if you stop being such a close-minded idiot. You might avoid humiliating yourself over the internet trying to act intelligent.
o rly charles? name ONE.
hmmm….a blog written by a neanderthal. Nothing wrong with that; judge people by the content of their character, not the stink of their fur.
Unfortunately this is written by an asshole neanderthal.
Being an Objectivist, I indeed have examined my head as you suggested. Clean bill of health. Your prognosis after an inspection of your organ of thought, the aformentioned asshole, does not give us too much hope.
And you know how you got so constipated? Favoring a political system that cares that people misbehave. Get it: thinking you have to control that — outside actual crime — makes you an asshole.
John Donohue
Pasadena, CA
John: What political system is that? You know, the one I favor? Oh, you just decided to spout without knowing anything about me at all. I see. Ah, California. That explains a lot. next!
Oh, by the way, Excellent job of trying to sound all erudite and hip. Pitiably, it’s a total flop, as one would expect. Velociman farts better prose than that, and I write more amusing stuff in excruciating pain under heavy sedation.
Well i might have been misled by your trumpeting of your position at the top of this thread.
Ah. So you read one line. BRILLIANT!
No?
So….looking for your mission statement, under “about” I see that you are just “taking up space.”
Where’s your blog? Oh, I see.
Nice.
Your stuff is not amusing, just cliched, knee-jerk and typical asshole spewing.
To find amusement here, you must posess conciousness and be capable of operating it. Go back to your bong.
Gawd…. I take a nap and a few fucktards ‘drive by’ and bust some verbal caps at Og’s website.
I’m guessing its from the link the Unreligious Right had given you.
Nothing wrong with that, it just made a highway bypass to this nice little cul-de-sac and some highwaymen stopped by to cause trouble.
The nice thing (for them) is: words can’t kill.
“o rly charles? name ONE. ”
Oooo! Ooooo! Pick me Og!
Somalia. No wait…
Congo. Hmmm…. nope…
Zimbabwe… nah….
I’ll get one Og! Give me some time!
John, I’m warmed up. You sure that you wanna play?
Maybe you should do your own fucking research :)
But here’s the simplest form of it. You might understand it at your level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities
yes, I looked at wiki. Nice resource! An encyclopedia that any moron can write. Her’es a little clue: When “anarchy” is forced from above, it’s a dictatorship, you fucktard. I said name a successful anarchy, and you cannot, because they do not exist. Please go back to your bong, you are beginning to bore the normal people.
Anyway, you addressed ONE of the points I made. And I just completely disregarded that.
I addressed every point you made. You’re too fucking closedminded and ignorant to open your own eyes, you moron.
Obviously you read nothing I wrote and just resorted to insulting me.
Poor Charles. He’s so misunderstood. He bases his ideology on something he read and feels good about, therefore it must be true! This is so delicious it deserves a whole new post.
I’m done with you.
Aw, dang. But we were having so much fun!!
man, I cannot stop coming here and being a fucktard. Boy, this goat asshole is tasty!
Gee… Bill, I come here to give you what you deserve and ya beat me to it!
Well Done!