When everyone thinks you’re wrong
you need to have enough spine to stand up and use the tools at your disposal to prove you’re right. You need to form the debate in a way that is fair and equitable and then hammer away until everyone understands that you are correct. You need to have the courage of your convictions and your knowledge to make your case, and not just with your feelings like democrats do, but with hard facts that illustrate and demonstrate the truth of your position. But you have to be careful.
Sometimes when everyone thinks you’re wrong, it’s because you’re wrong.
I work very hard to keep an open mind, and I do so because I refuse to be blindsided by truth I was just too stubborn to see. I’m willing to be taken to school on any subject at any time, and learn something new. Sometimes the new things I learn suck. But as I’ve said before, I never turn away, because to turn away is to choose willful ignorance, and wilful ignorance may be the worst sin I can imagine. Your mileage will probably vary.
Oh, and as for James E Griffin from Roberta’s comments: Do you have the courage of your convictions to come here and mouth off?
I thought not.
I hope RobertaX knows that we really like her alot.
I hope that this _one_ point of contention doesn’t create a breach – that would be silly considering all that we have in common.
James Griffin needs to go and live in Saudi Arabia and practice whatever non-muslim religion (Atheism too) to understand what we are talking about.
Nobody has said that we should round up the Muslims. Thats really a Strawman arguement.
Abolish Islam? Yes. I said that and I stand by it. It should become an internet meme.
Indeed. As much as it is possible to love someone you know almost solely on the internet, I love ms X. And I would so much rather have her on the list of sheepdogs than on the list of sheep. I have heard a lot of “they have rights too” and “bill of rights!” all of which I’m in absolute agreement with. But not once has anyone made an effort to even examine what we’re speaking about: Islam is not muslims. People are not a religion. The religion is demonstrably evil, and it’s practice is a blot on humanity. I have no problem with Muslims,so long as they do not practice islam, because it is, (unlike Chritianity, or buddhism, or judaism or whatever) provably evil. if anything, I’m trying to improve the lot of Muslims because their own faith oppresses them. man, it would be nice to be able to have that discussion, but I guess I’ll have to be satisfied knowing that enough people feel the way i do, so maybe my children and their children’s children will still have a chance at freedom.
Well put, Og. Nobody is saying ‘hunt down da muzzies’.
…and this point you said really bears repeating:
“As much as it is possible to love someone you know almost solely on the internet, I love ms X.”
Courage—saying what you know is right in the face of overwhelming denial.
Word was discussed at Cub scouts last night and that was the only definition none of the boys knew.
The key element about islam to know is that it condones lieing and theft to increase the caliphate.
You cannot trust a liar to tell the truth. EVER.
ed: Spelling error fixed.
I’ve known a number of people on the left who I had a thing or two in common with, and thought that was the basis of a good dialogue and acquaintanceship, but our polarizing after the war began in 2003, which was just a greater rift that had begun on our polar opposite take on the WTC/Pentagon attacks, caused me to quietly bow out of association with them. And now I see a lot of the same with stuff on the libertarian/right.
I don’t want to surround myself with an echo chamber of like minded people in a back slapping circle jerk, for that’s no true way to grow, but a lot of times it seems fruitless to try to reach out and connect with those with whom I may share a view or interest or two or three, only to butt heads on 100 other things, for there’s more to fracture over than to bond over.
I stayed out of the recent fracas, but that doesn’t mean I’ve no strong feeling on the ongoing play-out of things. I wish my fellow gun clingers well, but leave their company knowing we’d just not mesh, we’re too disparate otherwise, for them to put up with me for more than 10 minutes anywhere outside the Brew Pub.
I know you all think I’ve been AWOL on this, but I’ve been pondering what more to say since Political Correctness made the Fort Hood outrage an inevitability looking for a place to happen.
Here is who Radical Left = Sinister Wing I hold accountable. I surely hope that connecting of dots helps Roberta X.