Herman Cain, resolved.
Here’s the thing. I have yet to hear any credible evidence that Herman Cain has done anything out of the ordinary, or any proof that any of his accusers have that he did anything at all.
So:
I am Herman Cain’s Victim. Herman Cain touched me, (Your name here) in an inappropriate manner. This accusation is as credible as are any of the current accusations, and I am as credible as any of the accusers.
Pass this along and tell everyone you know. Maybe if we make the signal to noise ratio high enough these idiots accusing him will either come forward with proof, or disappear back to obscurity where they belong. Make this a joke that even the libtards at Comedy Central can’t resist. Most importantly, Herman can then win or lose based on what he says and does, rather than what a bunch of flaky bimbos say about him. Who is with me?
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Oh, I don’t doubt that he did something … He may have called somebody “baby” sometime … or told her that her dress was pretty, or that she looked nice.
He may have put an arm around her at a party or hugged her.
He may even have put the make on someone at an office function, or after a lunch or a dinner with adult beverages.
I’m sure if he did do these things he doesn’t remember because these are things that were pretty routine back in the day and once they were over guys didn’t think about them or the women who were on the receiving end. They were just “the girls” or that steno from the typing pool, the cute chick in the file room.
Those women who found this offensive took settlements for paltry amounts rather than go through the hassle of a federal suit. (Yes, they made a federal case out of it.) Nuisance suits to the company, easier to settle than fight — and the problem went away.
I don’t think it has anything to do with Herman Cain as a presidential candidate, or as a businessman, or as a husband, or anything much, really. Though I also don’t think that The Herminator is a real presidential candidate, neither — he’s just pretending to be one while he peddles books and makes speeches for money. For all his talk he has no real campaign mechanism set up anywhere, it’s all just one big book tour with free publicity.
(Newtie is much the same way except that now he thinks he actually has a chance.)
It’s all just so much business in most every direction. Not so much monkey business, though.
Jenny
I like Herman Cain, as I also like Sarah Palin. I think they’re both real people. I don’t always agree with either, and I don’t think either of them could fill President Reagan’s shoes. I’m horrified that Cain’s campaign could be sidetracked by a smaller less credible set up accusers that those the media ignored when Bill Clinton was campaigning for President the first time.
How much of this campaign is real, though? And how much is posturing?
Posturing to get book sales/revenue from speeches/sell DVDs.
Posturing to gain advantage for other jobs/other situations in the Republican party and elsewhere. (They do have to pick a Vice President … and Cabinet members.)
Posturing for another campaign down the road (Looking at YOU, Jon Huntsman!)
Is anybody in that lineup sincere? Maybe. But mostly not. Sad to say.
Just my opinion, I could be full of it. Probably am. But that’s what it looks like to me.
Jenny
Jenny, that’s a cheap shot, just like the cheap accusations that spawned it (reference intended). Of course you can say that the early campaign efforts of a candidate in a crowded field of same are inconsequential, and for some of shallow thought, such as yourself, will remain inconsequential until the final candidate selection is made, at which point, you will simply shrug and say, “Still no big deal, and can’t fill Obama’s shoes anyway”
There, I saved you the trouble of further replies, so now you can go back to whatever turns you on, which, I suspect, isn’t much, since the offended, harpy-screeching, “I am woman hear me roar” message just oozes from your message.
“How much of this campaign is real, though? And how much is posturing?”
What does any of that have to do with being hounded by bimbos?
Dog: Jenny is an old, dear friend, and you will be polite to her.
Rivrdog, I have no idea why you should consider what I have said to be a “cheap shot.”
It’s actually an observation based on my years in the workplace as one of those “girls,” holding a job of work in the 70s-80s-90s.
I was myself subjected to exactly the kind of treatment I outlined — and worse, including attempted rape. And I also saw these things happen to other women in similar situations.
I don’t just mean women who took offense by being told they were “pretty” instead of being told they were capable — that’s not sexual harassment, though there are women who see it as such.
We’ll probably never know what exactly happened, if anything, between Herman Cain and those women. As I said, he could have simply told someone she looked nice that day. Or he could have done more. Whatever it was, whatever she was, I do not doubt that he totally forgot about it because it wasn’t really important and it — and she — didn’t mean anything.
I don’t think he’s lying. I would be willing to bet he really doesn’t know.
In my situations, I didn’t sue. I just looked for another job. That’s what most women did/do.
Yes, the field of Republican candidates is crowded. Some of them have real campaign staffers on the ground in places like Iowa and New Hampshire. For the record, Herman Cain does not. Unless things have changed since the end of last week, if you’re wanting Herman to speak to you and your fellow Republicans anywhere you have to contact him through the speakers bureau he uses to book his speeches. (He is charging the same rate as before, though, “it’s only fair” he said.) He’s on a book tour. That’s not normal behavior for a presidential candidate.
I would love to see a real presidential candidate running somewhere. There’s not one in the White House and not much of one anywhere else either. To my sorrow.
Jenny
PS Denigrating the messenger because you don’t like the message is not a sign of superior intellect. You were disrespectful to me, and even worse, to Og, this is his good site and he deserves better than to have to deal with someone being an ass.
This is the Crap Sandwich Condiment Conundrum,
US.Elected.gov has been piling the crap on us for decades, Obama says, “Hey lets make this bad boy a Dagwood, pile it higher!!!!”
I know that there is no way to get the crap out of the bread now, and only a small hope to get rid of some of the crap, so now I am looking at whether I want Mayo or mustard on my sandwich……
They could have first person video of Cain driving a flaming bus full of nuns off of a cliff into a animal shelter run by orphans and I’d still vote for him, because I know that if Obama wins there will be more crap on the sandwich and no condiments……
Eff-it, I have no choice in the general election I’ll vote for that tard Ron Paul, hell, even that slack-jawed looser Huntsman before I vote for Barack-Ogabe, but right now I have a choice…… it may not be the greatest choice of condiments but I have a choice.
So, Jenny, you got in your cheap shot, your statement for womanhood in the western world (and all the inequities that they face) and you stated that you think that Mr. Cain is indeed a dog, even though you have no proof.
But you really didn’t answer the question.
“That’s not normal behavior for a presidential candidate.” that’s the best bonus so far. To date we had- oh, hell, Johnson, the criminal he was, nixon, who had his own damned issues,Carter, the second worst president ever, I think, both Bushes, who had their issues, Clinton, that sleazy piece of crap, and now wingnut head, clearly the worst president ever. Hooray for someone who doesn’t behave like a normal presidential candidate. behaving like a normal presidential candidate has gotten us here. I’m all for something not like that.
besides, as I said; let’s let Cain stand on his own merits, and shut up the Obama fawning sycophants in the press who are glomming onto any opportunity to get rid of anyone who opposes their baby, Romney.
And Jenny: Dog is an old friend, too. Y’all just be nice, dammit.
Damn, leave the place for a bit and all hell breaks loose.
It really does not matter much as I am sure we will never elect another president. The boomers have screwed the pooch again and we will have to clean it all up.
For what it is worth, I had a chance to meet Herman Cain when he was at an ISU football game but I was working. So was he. If it come to that, he has my vote.
I don’t give a shit if he grabbed their boobs and twisted them till they cried.
I’m to the point anymore that I’d vote for Satan himself just out of spite.
I can only hope that a plague of pancreatic cancer strikes the majority of the Media for this and all the pertinent news that goes unreported. I’m sick of these bastards deciding what we need to focus on.
GrumpyUnk +1
I’m not worried about the general election right now; I’m worried about who I’m voting for in the primary:
Bachmann: No.
Gingrich: eehh…
Ron Paul: No.
Cain: erm…
Perry: uhhh…
Romney: Not just no but FUCK NO
…and I haven’t heard anything about any others who look even remotely passable.
I’m just not seeing anything from any of these guys that looks like what I want to support.
Once the primaries are over I’ll throw in with whoever the party elects…EXCEPT FOR ROMNEY. If Romney gets the nod, I won’t be voting in the Presidential election. There’s no difference between him and Obama, except for the tan and the letter next to his name. ((r) or (d).)
I have absolutely zero faith left in the GOP anyway, after the budget bullshit in August.
Right Ed. The Republican Party acts like it hates the conservative base more than it hates Obama.
And if you think the budget BS of August was bad, you’re gonna love the crap coming out of this unconstitutional Super Committee. The proof will be when the GOP refuses to challenge the Supercomm in the Supreme Court — the Senators and Congressman have standing for a suit, you and I do not.
Obviously none of you got the memo that “Can you please doctor my tea” is slang for “I want to pound your lily white Aryan booty with my Nubian love hammer”, and “Hello ladies and gentlemen” means “Where’s all the fine milky white ass up in here?”
But only if it’s said by a conservative black dude.
In the future, the theme song to “Shaft” will be played every time Herman Cain enters the stage to warn the audience to protect the womenfolk.
Yes, there is a difference. Romney will be far more likely to have a Republican House and Senate.
Also, while Romney is too wishy washy for my tastes at least we can whisper in one of his ears while the Democrats are whispering in the other.
I’m not entirely happy with our previous President, George W. Bush. But there is no doubt in my mind that Bush was a much better President than Gore or Kerry would have been.
Yes, Romney would make a worse President than Bush. But he wouldn’t be near as bad as Jimmy Carter.
I appreciate Cain for stirring things up, bringing in some fresh ideas and making the country club republicans uncomfortable. I like that in Bachmann as well. Even if change to the GOP is glacial, I’ll stay involved.
I’ll hold my nose and vote for Romney if that’s the case, and throw some more time & money at the Tea Party because I do not believe this nation will survive a second Obama term.
I believe ‘hope’ to be a wasted emotion. No project plan I’ve developed or seen had ‘hope’ in it as a critical success factor. The only thing that makes change happen is you push and fight until you’ve got no push or fight left. No surrender.
Thanks for letting me throw in here.
I live in Indiana, and we have the third-to-last primary in the nation. My primary vote for the presidential candidate means almost nothing, as all but a couple contenders will have dropped out by the time things get around to us. By the time it got to us last year, IIRC, the ballot was McCain vs. Paul vs. Huckabee, and the latter had dropped out too late to take him off the ballot. So I voted for McCain, who was the least-worst candidate. I really wanted Fred.
All that to say that I’ma go pop some popcorn and watch you guys hash it out, ’cause I really don’t have a say in things.
“They could have first person video of Cain driving a flaming bus full of nuns off of a cliff into a animal shelter run by orphans and I’d still vote for him, because I know that if Obama wins there will be more crap on the sandwich and no condiments……”
LOL I did, thanks for brightening up my otherwise dismal morning.
I’ll fight like hell in the primaries to get almost anyone but Romney, but I;d vote for freakin’ Olympia Snowe over Obama.
And before anyone yells “no different” at least that clueless bint wouldn’t be DELIBERATELY destroying the country according to a transnational progressive’s wet dream of a blueprint.