mr B posits
if we put up a chain link fence it would be $32,000 a mile for the fence. Posts, rails, concertina would probably double that number. So $64k a mile. Even a nice round figure of $100,000 a mile would be reasonable to use for estimating purposes.
now, there’s 2000 miles of border- but of course a lot of it IS fenced, in towns and areas where there’s border crossings, so let’s assume 1500 miles. That’s $150 million to put up the fence. Do that three times, with ten feet between the fences, and you got $450 million. And wingnuthead is planning to spend two billion to basically do nothing, but look like he has accomplished something.
$450 million dollars seems like a lot of money, but it’s chump change to some. Teams of volunteers could do this- I bet ten guys could put up a mile of 12′ fence in a week. Two guys drilling holes, two guys setting posts, two guys capping and railing, two guys stretching chain, two guys hanging concertina. With the right power tools it’s a cakewalk. That’s 1500 miles times ten guys; I have no doubt there’s fifteen thousand men in this country that would like to see the borders more secure.
of course it would be declared vandalism and we would be arrested. We’d have to get some people that would be a huge embarrassment to the administration to arrest- some union members who want to keep their jobs, some celebrities (hello, mr Rowe?) some women and children. Anyone got ideas for sponsors? Anyone want to do this? This seems like the kind of thing that would bring publicity to the situation and make some headlines.
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It will never be done with the current administration in power. remember O was elected on the promise to fundamentally change the USA.
They are currently ginning up a humanitarian crisis by pushing children over the border.
Yes, it would be easy to do, which is why it will never be done.
Fuck them. Let’s us do it.
I’m in if we can get enough people to make it worthwhile…Even if we DO get arrested. My boss won’t care.
Now all we need is the money.
TO do this right though, we need babes in bikinis.Cheering us on. Photogenic ones.
*THAT* will get the media’s attention. Especially when they get arrested.
I like it more daily.
Do it like highway cleanup..
Names of corporations or individuals who donated materials
Names of volunteers.
One sign every mile, just like highway cleanup signs.
Why not concrete? Anyone with bolt cutters can get through chain link.
Vertical slipforming is commonplace, and there are machines that lay curb, including the footer, at nearly a walking pace. Anyone make one that does 12 foot walls?
I can throw a few bucks in.. Maybe a kick starter project?
Used to work for a company that made a trencher that could did a trench 4 feet wide and 6 feet deep at 8 miles an hour. Sold several to Iraq during the Iraq-iran war.
Why not plant cactus along the border? Animals can still get around, but people will have a tough time. Environmentally sound, relatively cheap, and self-sustaining. Who could ask for anything more?
ANd then they’d chop paths through the cactus.
Cactus doesn’t grow like thorn hedges.
Good idea, if not well thought out.
The right direction, though, I think. What about letting multiflora rose grow into the fence? Anyone who has ever tried to clear that sort of monstrosity knows how difficult it can be.
Landmines.
Cheaper.
HERP A DERP!
If i wasnt a moron, my comments would appear unedited.
Interesting thought… Maybe a Kickstarter???
No fence or wall is any good unless it is patrolled. I looked up the number of patrollers for our southern border once. It sounded like an impressive number,until I divided them into shifts, figuring that after meetings and paperwork each officer would be out on patrol no more than 30 hours per week. It came out to about one officer every 5 miles of border – or more practically, a pair about every 10 miles. Single men could climb the fence and be out of site before the next patrol came by 90% of the time. Groups could just tear down the fence – the first group should get caught, but since the officers who discovered it would need several more officers for backup, there’d be a large length of fence unguarded for an hour or more.
What’s needed is a fence, festooned with sensors and frequently repaired, _and_ several times the manpower – and that gets expensive.
Sure. So lets just keep doing nothing.