Islam is inherently evil.
I’m not interested in discussing this in Roberta’s comments.
Roberta believes that there is no inherent evil in Islam. She is, of course, demonstrably incorrect, but it’s her good heart and good nature that makes her so.
What astounds me is the number of people in comments there that believe this is true.
Look, people, if you don’t want to look at this clearly, that’s not my problem. But don’t claim to have any knowledge of the subject because “You know a muslim and he was fine”. If you do not understand that islam is inherently evil, you are a FUCKTARD. At the core of islam is the Koran. Ever read it? I have. Every Muslim is entreated to follow without fault every word of the Koran. And the words of the Koran are full of all manner of shit for everyone NOT a muslim.
How many nations do muslims have to murder and enslave before people GET THIS?
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I wish the MSM would stop giving Islam such a pass.
You know… treat the Religion in the same way Christianity is treated day after day by the press.
Oh, I get it… very well. Personal experience on multiple occasions, in multiple venues; plus theological analysis.
Cond, had Leftwing media promptly displayed Hasan’s cheerleaders in this country, we’d need be ducking winged pigs.
All religion with any sort of afterlife is inherently evil: they teach people, starting as children, that they don’t need to clean up their messes in this life.
After you get done running the Muslims through the camps, who’s next, Og? The Hindoos, the Jews, me?
I have ancestors who started out down the Trail of Tears and managed to slip away. “Fool me once…”
“All religion with any sort of afterlife is inherently evil:”
No, that is demonstrably incorrect. As a Catholic, specifically, we are taught that not cleaning up our messes in this life is what prevents us from enjoying the afterlife. Calvinists are a little more as you describe, beliving that only John 3:16 is required and then you can be as much a bastard as you like.
“After you get done running the Muslims through the camps, who’s next, Og? The Hindoos, the Jews,”
This shows a total lack of understanding of Islam. I can teach you, if you desire to learn, but I will not argue with you.
In Islam, the crazy is part and parcel of their religion, and cannot be separated from it, ever. Not so much- well, any other religion. If you are interested in learning, I’m pleased to point this out, as dispassionately as if we were discussing algebra. If your mind is closed on the subject and you aren’t interested in learning, then I can’t discuss it with you.
Here’s a few samples of what I’m talking about:
Islam: Started by a child molesting bastard offspring of Abraham.
Abraham: not so much
Christ: Not so much
Buddha: Not so much
Ras Tafari: Not so much
&etc.
Islam: calls on it’s followers to murder, enslave, torture, and in every wise oppress every non muslim, everywhere
jews: Not so much.
Christianity: Not so much.
Buddhisim: Not so much.
Rastafarians: Not so much
&etc.
Jews did not have, as part of their core belief system, a plan for world dominance including the forced submission of everyone else. Jews were innocents, being led to the slaughter. I have no interest in stamping out muslims, just Islam. It is a disease and we should quarantine it until it is no longer a threat.
Japan DID have a plan for world dominance, and we quarantined them until they were no longer a threat. it worked just fine. We had to do some tough stuff to get there, but if you ask anyone who was on Mount Suribachi, or in a japanese POW camp, I guess they’d say it was worth it.
Child molestation is evil.
Murdering innocents is evil.
Genital mutilation is evil.
enslaving people who do not share your beliefs is evil
Taxing people so that they cannot afford to live is evil.
Deliberately maiming people so that they cannot earn a living is evil
Preventing all other forms of worship is evil.
Forcing a rudimentary and patently unjust system of government on everyone they encounter is evil.
All these things are not things that muslim crazies do. These things are all at the core of muslim belief.
You may choose to ignore them, but it does not make them not true. You can point out atrocities committed by every creed on earth, but those atrocities were committed by crazies not following the rules of that creed. The atrocities committed by Muslims are not because those people are crazy, but because their belief system encourages it, condones it, and in fact requires it of them.
Calling a religion evil doesn’t mean I want to run its every adherent through a slaughterhouse chute. Far from it.
It’s worth noting that a principle difference between Islam and Christianity is that Christianity specifically teaches that freedom to choose is tantamount, and that enforcement of heavenly law is specifically the jurisdiction of heaven. Historical idiocies aside (that’s another lecture), I defy you to find one instance in the Bible where the Paul, Peter or any of the others advocate spreading their faith by the sword.
Jesus taught his followers that their job was to grow close to him, and to bring others to him through their example of salvation. Muhammed taught his followers to convert the heathen by force, and to slaughter those who didn’t fall in line. That’s really the only distinction I feel needs to be made.
Og is offering an amazing offer Roberta, if it was me, I doubt I could do it. (have tried with the kids, by the time I start expaining the major differences, it is hard for them to understand me as I am sputtering so, and my face is all red).
Seriously, if nothing else pick up almost any book written by Robert Spencer on Islam or Mohamed. He provides more information (very well documented and researched) and evidence, which exposes this cult of death masquerading as a religion, than just about any other individual out there.
I have worked for these folks (back in the late 90’s). Individuals were polite, some outright friendly (these were Kuwait military and embassy folk and some of their families). A cross section of folks much like any other group. Except they all embraced Islam (some more so than others). You have the Whahabists, and the reactionary groups within the Shite and Sunni branches of this faith, that make all the headlines (like an abusive spouse) … than you have the rest, who at least tacitly approve of their actions (this would equate to the spouse who suffered the beatings). Sometimes the abused spouse immediately goes and takes all measures needed to get away from the abuser. More often than not, you have the abused being an enabler to the abuser (for any number of reasons). This is what is happening with Islam. The silent ones are for the most part enabling the abusers to do what they do. If it does not change and change soon, they run the risk of suffering the same fate as the abuser(s) … eradication.
Sorry for the ramble Og, edit as you see fit.
Oh, you’ll find suras (verses) in the Quran where it’s all sweetness and l;ight about “there is no coerciion in religion”, meaning people are free to choose. But there’s so much counter-vailing evidence that forcing people to profess Islam is perfectly okay and encouraged, As Og says, taxing people so they can’t live is evil- but hey, you can avoid that tax simply by converting! Voila! What mercy Allah shows you!
This does it!
I’m outta that Amway society!
All religion with any sort of afterlife is inherently evil: they teach people, starting as children, that they don’t need to clean up their messes in this life.
This one statement shows such a profound ignorance of religion that it boggles the mind, and quite honestly makes me wonder about the rest of your beliefs. My advice to you is to take Og up on his offer and learn a little something about this particular subject.
Amway! That’s it, Dick, you’re OUTA HERE!!!
The world is full of subjugated peoples enslaved by their own desire for something for nothing, petty revenge, or the need to project their national inadequacies onto a manufactured enemy. But enough about the Democrats. . . who for all their grand speechifyin’ are religious hucksters of the Islamic style.
Indeed, so many of the liberal Left’s class-mongerers can be found hand-in-glove with Islam. It is not just Islam as a religion, it is the ideology of its social vision that has already captured the vain and lazy imagination of the non-working class in our country. It’s evil.
Og, your follow-up comment is worthy of its own post.
I’ve struggled and squirmed with this, trying to be ecumenical and all that happy horseshit, and am forced to agree. If a man follows the Koran and is a good and true Muslim, he is an evil bastard, in service to evil, and as deserving of the back of the hand as the devil himself.
And if one professing to be a Muslim abjures all the things which make his more ardent co-religionists uncomfortable neighbors, then he is, by the tenets of his religion, apostate. Subject to being done to death.
The latter might be amenable to conversion, though the sincerity of it might be doubtful. The former…
Did I mention the whole “evil” thing?
M
The easiest way for me to put it is: when Christians are being bad, it is when they stop following the teachings of their faith, and when they are good, it is from following it. When Muslims are being bad, it is when they’re following their belief’s tenets, and when they are good, it is because they strayed from what islam teaches.
As far as there being no compulsion in islam, that is an earlier verse that is abrogated by the latter verse saying to convert them all or make them vassals. Oh, and their book tells them to lie to a non-muslim is fine, as long as it gets them an upper hand.
Robert Spencer is as close as I get to calling someone a hero. He grew up a Christian in a muslim land, and knows these people and their faith with a depth that many muslims do not have. I have about ten of his books, and the scholarship in all are tops.
My own feelings? Satan is the ultimate deceiver, and the father of lies. Allah teaches to lie and cheat to spread islam, called taqqiya and kitman:
http://islamreview.blogspot.com/2006/01/taqiyya-how-to-lie-and-call-it.html
It is a religion built upon deceit. Muhammed is his acolyte who spreads his error throughout the world over time. Forget looking for an anti-Christ to come; he passed this way 1400 years ago, just now is his way coming to threaten all civilization.
VERY Good Link, mts1.
Society is built off of honesty (Truth).
That is the covenant that Humanity has made with itself and is the foundation that civilization is built off of – no matter what religion you choose to accept as your ‘Cartesian Coordianate Point of Origin’. It is a covenant that is practiced and revitalized everyday by each act of honesty that we do to each other.
Taqqiya tears at this covenant between all peoples of the world.