Meet Phil.
Phil grew up in a household where English and Vietnamese were spoken. His father had brought a Vietnamese girl back with him from the Nam, and Phil was as at home with one culture as another. And he learned to cook for both.
So it was no surprise when Phil had a chance he went to Vietnam to become an English language teacher. He did this for a while but with the local food and his innate skills he becomes a magnificent cook.
He returns to the US and opens a Vietnamese fusion restaurant and calls it Phil’s Pho. The food is spectacular, inexpensive, and business is booming. This goes on for years, and his reputation spreads. he grows his own vegetables so they are always fresh in season, he has a little farm where he raises his own pigs and chickens, the freshness of the food is a wonder to behold. Vietnamese people throng to the place because the food is as good as or better than their memories of home.
Then one day a lady comes in and eats, and loves it so much she returns the next day. She asks Phil if he can make Tom Yum Soup, and he smiles and says he can make it better than anyone on the continent, and he’s right.
She reaches in her cavernous purse and pulls out a cute squirming little puppy and hands it to him, and he is confused, but only for a moment, then he hands it back.
Now, I can already hear the bullshit. “That’s not an adequate comparison! Killing a dog is nothing like baking a cake!” That misses the point. The point is, that a business owner is being asked to do something that is morally repugnant to him. “But the law allows him to bake a cake, not to cook dog!” Well, that’s not true. In most of the US it is legal to cook and eat dog. And you miss the point: The point is, that a business owner is being asked to do something that is morally repugnant to him.
“But it has nothing to do with religion!!” Indeed, it does not. The point is, that a business owner is being asked to do something that is morally repugnant to him.
YOU DO NOT GET TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT THEY FIND TO BE MORALLY REPUGNANT. You can laugh at it, you can make fun of it, you can fail to understand it, you can disagree with it, but you do not get to dictate other people’s morals. Making a statement like “This is sooooooo repugnant to the Baby Jesus that a good, God-fearing baker dassen’t do it? ” demonstrates only the worst kind of bigotry. A couple weeks back, mr B commented in one of my posts “Perhaps Mabel feels about making a cake for those 3 queers the same way you do about abortions in your building. ” I commented that making a cake was not analogous to abortion, but in fact he is right; I don’t get to dictate what Mabel finds morally repugnant.
The screaming hysterical antitheist left and the gay agenda that they are using as a weapon to destroy the church are getting steadily louder. You can turn your head away and claim they don’t exist because you don’t see it, but that just makes you willfully ignorant. You can claim that “*good* men, *decent* men,” are being persecuted, and you’re right; they’re called Christians.
This whole indiana/RFRA mess is just that. Pointing to the law and saying ” for places of public accommodation, the issue was settled in the 1960s. Nineteen. Sixties.” demonstrates a deliberate and intentional disconnect between what is legal and what is moral. I always choose moral, and my morals are predominantly secular- wholly secular on this subject. A couple of very good friends of mine independantly reported to me the ugliness of the demonstrations going on in Indianapolis in the wake of the RFRA, and the disgust they felt for what they saw. And civil rights activists are busing in even more shrill and vicious “Tolerant” people.
Because shit flinging is common to people who cannot argue with facts, I am often accused of being a “Homophobe” or of being “Squicked” about gay behavior. Please, really? This demonstrates an ignorance of who and what I am that can only be described as “Epic”. If you have not been intimate with me, commenting on what squicks me out is ludicrous and, frankly, simple minded.
This is all only about freedom. The moment you place a higher value on the freedom of one person than another, the moment you claim freedoms are ok for a group you like but not for people who believe in a sky god who collects souls, you are the problem.
yeah, yeah. I’m the worlds biggest dick and I’m WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! Keep on believing that. Believe anything you want. And don’t go looking for Phil’s Pho, it’s only a parable, futhuchrissakes.
Thanks for that well thought out post.
Totally agree. It is the same. one group of people using their political power to force another group to do whatever the hell they want. it was never about the cake. It was about making the baker bend over and submit.
It’s ONLY tolerance if you agree with them… sigh… Well said Og!
I agree, well said.
Well said.
The power of the government is a terrible tool to enforce perceived morals with.
Horse whips work better in my mind.
Yes Hale — submit. As in islam.
How can anyone legitimately wonder why the two death cults have such an affinity?
If you can force a Christian baker to sell to anyone, can he refuse to bake a cake for the KKK? What about requiring Jews or Seventh Day Advententists to work on Saturday, or a Muslim to handle pigskin?
In order to make this stand religion has to start and end as a social club that meets on Sundays from 9 to 12. Sort of like Moose and Elk and Lions, but the leaders wear funny clothes during the meetings.