All Hail the Mighty mac!
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A commenter over at Hog on ice who calls himself the Imam of Audio and Video makes the following comments at Steve’s site:
Og, based on your comments I thought you were a schoolgirl with a crush on Bill Gates, pocket-rocket in hand…
Um, no. THe only geek I hate worse than Gates is the original Xerox theif, Steve Jobs.
It’s very simple, really: you are wrong and I am right.
You and i can agree on that, of course, you ARE wrong, and I AM right. And not only can I say it, but unlike you, i can prove it.
No amount of BS you write about Windows will make it better, or more stable. (Hm. did I say it was better? No, I didn’t, I guess that must just be your inferiority complex showing. Or maybe you have trouble with reading comprehension.)Here’s a little quiz: what servers are used in Human Genome project? Macs. Don’t care. What is the predominant computer used in media? Mac.Commies. That’s a good reason to use a computer, because a bunch of liberal media pricks use it. Oh, and: Don’t care. What is the predonimant computer used in Video production? Macs. Don’t care.Graphic design? Macs. I told you, if you want to make pretty pictures or cute videos, have fun! And, Don’t care.Music production? Macs.More liberal commies. And Don’t care. Science? UNIX, Linux and Macs.Don’t care.Don’t care.Don’t care.
Windows may be on 90% percent of computers but that doesn’t mean they are better. There’s that inferiority complex again. I have never said windows was better, but you cannot STOP saying that mac is not worse. Methinks thou dost protest overmuch. Your logic is a little flawed. Why mess with logic when facts are all I need? If you like being a masochist, go right ahead. But keep that pocket-rocket handy the next time your Windows PC crashes for no reason at all. Wow, there’s that reading comprehension thing again.Maybe they offer a remedial reading class. Let me repeat for the slow witted: Windows 2000. Six years. Zero trouble. Ever. I bet you can even read that on a Mac.
You may have to entertain yourself while you clean up a virus or run some other rescure software to help you out. Nobody writes viruses for Commodore 64’s either. What would be the point?
Let’s look hard at facts. In every industry, in every machine, in every piece of industrial machinery that makes everything you see, all day, every day, everywhere, the machinery is run by PC’s. And they run with a level of reliability that MACs can never ever equal. Also: all of the software that’s made to network and talk to various pieces of industrial eqipment (presses. Mills. Lathes. Grinders. The list is huge) is made to run on PC’s and PC’s only. Hardened industrial PC’s have been in use now for so many years, that they have become the industry standard. From each piece of furniture you sit on, to every car you ride in, to every coffeemaker, to every blender to every refrigerator, from all the food producing plants to all the places that make rubber for your tires- in short, all of manufacturing has turned to the inexpensive, reliable, Windows based PC in either it’s normal configuration or embedded in a single board. Without Apple, a few people would have to go back to doing things by the old method- mostly, in the media. Without PC based computers, and their myriad offshoots, almost all of manufacturing would grind to a halt in short order.
And to clarify what I was saying to Limfoma Mbweebwee(GOD I love that name!!! I want to hear Mel Blanc saying that over and over) there are hundreds if not thousands of software suites in industry that will only run on PCs, and have never been written for and will never be written for a mac, because the industry standard is not Mac, the standard of industry is PC.
And I hate them both equally, like any sane man. No sane person wants to spend ten or more hours a day sitting in front of a computer, and the day I can never look at nor touch a computer again will be the happiest day of my life. mactards amuse me no end. Now, lest anyone think I’m being one sided about this, I’ll post this link, a short video by a diehard mac user who loves his mac. His name is Hunter Cressel and he wants to tell you how awesome his MAC experiences are. (I’m always amazed at this. Hunter is a serious mac user, who does excellent work, by the way, and the mactards beat him up like he was the antichrist.)
And just so I stay fair and balanced, and because Mac’s graphics and stuff are so much better, I’ll ask the guys who do a lot of gaming what they think:
And then there’s Apple’s new promotional campaign.
now, it is true, you can get a Mac to emulate Windows.
Pity you can’t have the last word, Imam. Oh, here’s a little quiz for you: In industry, (no, not the media industry, but the industry where people actually MAKE things) who uses apple computers? DINGDINGDING! Yes, Alex, that’s right! the businesses that are failing.
And Imam: what’s a pocket rocket? Is that an Itoy in the shape of His Almightyness Steve Job’s cock that you insert in your orifice of choice while you worship at the altar of the almighty Apple?
18 comments Og | Uncategorized
I know dick about computers and programs. That makes arguments about those items easy.
People have been asking the company I work for to port its software to the Mac for, hmm, as long as the company’s been around (since 1993). So a couple of years ago, we did.
I don’t believe we’ve actually sold a single Mac license. Nope, I take it back; I just ran through the license database. We’ve sold one.
Mostly we sell the Windows, Linux, and Solaris ports. The Mac is a joke for the kind of work we do.
But I’d better be careful or Naylor will be on here telling us how wonderful his Macs are. :)
hehe!
The whole philosophy behind the Mac is that the computer is the Master, and the user is the Slave. Somehow, I had just the opposite image in my mind’s eye, so chose the PC. I’ve never looked back, and my current machine is a Windows 2000 machine in service for the last six years … without a crash, or a hang … It just runs. Oh … and I have my whole business on it … database/web development, the financials, customer contact lists, everything. Long live the PC!
Please don’t take this the wrong way. I read this entire post and all my brain comprehended was “blah, blah, blah…blahblahblahblahblah. Blah!”
Can’t say I’ve ever been in a computer arguement. Can’t say I’ve ever cared that much.
Kelly, that is the ENTIRE point. They’re tools It’s not a religion.
You should watch the Hunter Cressel video, though. It’s a hoot.
Dayum.
LOL – I love these little arguments. Especially by the zealots of one particular OS or another. It’s so amusing to listen to them extol the virtues of their “oh so superior” computers.
You are exactly right Og – PC’s are the standard – because IBM figured out how to get them into business early and make them indispensible… NOT because they are the most outstanding OS ever concieved. But they do the job that needs doing and they do it well.
Every OS has it’s problems. There is not a single one to be found that doesn’t have holes and failures – depending on usage. When you don’t load up lots of 3rd party software and every stupid cute trick out on the web – it’s amazing how well your computer will run, regardless of the OS involved.
Mac’s will never be standard for business, neither will Linux – both got to the game too late… but it’s always a good laugh to hear the evangelism.
You failed to shoot at a BIG target, Og.
The reason that Mac hasn’t died out by now is that to get the measly 5% market share that he has, Jobs had to GIVE AWAY his computers. To schools, in the tens of thousands, to teachers, free software. This bought off the educrats to keep pushing Mac, and without the educrats, the Mac would only be found in lanfills by now.
Oh, there are a million other stupidities, Rivrdog. All I can say, is: Betamax.
I disagree on one point, Og. Macs do NOT have superior graphics. At the moment, at the commodity level where most users work, there is a rough parity. But the development weight is on the PC side. Several quantum jumps recently have been developed first for the Wintel platform and then for the Mac as an afterthought.
And it should be pointed out that, since we now have OS-X running on Intel machines, just exactly IS a Mac? An OS shell? An expensive Linux?
Macs are good at high-touch user friendliness, I’ll give them that, but are those touches worth the premium price? ::shrug::
Back in the Windows 3 days, I learned a truth which I have not seen change in the intervening years. A Windows user can be more productive than a Mac user, simply because the Windows system forces developers to open their UI to keyboard commands, whereas the Mac OS does not. The coordinated use of mouse and keyboard enhances productivity.
I work with a Mac expert who has been using the things since the days of the little breadbox with the integrated screen. ’84? He’s very good. But he working in Illustrator and I in CorelDRAW, I can smoke him every time. And he DOES use the keyoard commands to their fullest.
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Hehe! mark, I had to throw them some kind of a bone. Even if they didn’t deserve it.
Given the next generation’s “training” all software will be run off of a Playstaion platform and commands will be given through joystick/button combos.
Vulgorilla: What? I don’t feel particularly “slave”-like when using my various macs (nor do I feel more in control when using my windows-based PCs, and the sheer god-damn annoyance of customising linux and the like makes it more painful than compelling).
I wouldn’t say either of the two makes the user more “in control” in normal use for typical people.
Mark: What is “a Mac”? It’s any computer sold under the Macintosh brand (or licensed clone, for a short period in the 90s), of course.
MacOS is an OS, just like any other OS is an OS. It’s more or less a unix core, with a lot of custom UI and API work on top. Does that help
(What do you “smoke” your coworker at doing in Corel Draw, exactly? I don’t know what industry you’re in that CorelDraw is even considered competitive with Illustrator.
Full Disclosure: I’ve always hated Corel products, on *all platforms*.)
I don’t think there’s the price premium you think there is, either, if one bothers to compare same-spec machines. (There was a price premium in the past, but we’re not buying computers there now, are we?)
When the MacBook and MacBook pro were released, plenty of commentators went over, say, the Dell catalog, pricing a same-spec machine. Prices were very close (since it’s difficult or impossible to get exactly the same spec, this makes identical comparisons hard, but one can get very close), and sometimes the Apple product even came in cheaper.
Rivr: Um, wasn’t Apple selling tons of computers to schools? Apple’s always been a hardware company. What timeframe are you talking about here?
I know when I got my G4 with student discounts in the late 90s, they were still making a tidy, tidy profit.
Me, I’ve been using Macs since OS 6, and Windows since version 2, and Linux since kernel 1.2.8, and I think it’s stupid to get religious about it in any direction.
It is all about tools, used for a purpose. For industrial processes, since Apple doesn’t make a hardened Mac, obviously it’s a bad tool.
But that makes it a bad tool for that job, not a bad tool per se. (A chisel is ruined by using it to open a can of paint. That makes it bad prybar, not a bad tool – and likewise, a prybar is a lousy chisel.
Just as linux is a lousy end-user desktop OS, Macs are preferred for graphics work, and a hardened PC is what you want to run a CNC mill. Or a normal PC running XP and Office, in your everyday business office.)
Actually, no, Sigivald, apple GAVE those computers to schools- or sold them at a substantial loss. I was personally involved in one of those transactions.
It’s not about apple not making a hardened computer, it’s about the utter inapropriateness of the computer AND the os to un cnc machinery. Anbd you can easily open a can of paint with a chisel, I do it all the time, and no harm comes to the chisel. At all. Of course, there are a dozen different types of chisel, and you did’t specify which one.
If Apple/Mac OS works for someone, god love them. I don’t give a rats ass. THe bottomline is, use what tool works for you. What bugs the crap out of me are the mactards that believe nothing should be done that cannot be done on a mac. Good lord.
On the other hand: I still hate ALL computers.
Wow. I really missed the blood-letting… But I’m still wrong, though. And you’re still right.
:-)
Well, duh.