Well, it didnt’ take too long
less than a day for the Saddam video to hit the internet. no, go find it yourself.
I’m not altogether on the capital punishment bandwagon- I prefer not to take human life if I can avoid doing so.
That being said, when a man murders his own people, he loses the title “human”. And a lot of crimes take that title away. I won’t be shedding any tears.
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Huh. I finally found something which which I can disagree with og.
I think capital punishment would work a helluva lot better were it used FAR more often. None of this “20 years on death row” bullshit; I’m talking about a .45 ACP to the temple around the back of the courthouse.
Scratch that. I think the death penalty should be outlawed. What they ought to do is offer amnesty to the victim’s family. If they decide to put a .30 caliber hole through the bastard, they walk away scot-free…
Jay, I totally agree with you- but for one little thing: As Steve H says, the Law is run by the gummint. And the gummint fucks EVERYTHING up. Read this and be edumucated:
http://www.hogonice.com/2006/12/has_anybody_here_seen_my_old_f.html
I can only hope that Saddam roasts for all eternity.
Good Riddance.
I fully support the death penalty for parking violations.
I just admire their alacrity. If you’re going to have a death penalty, give ’em one appeal, then kill ’em. Yes, the possibility exists that we may off an innocent man, but the odds are against it, and we’d make the point that you don’t get to live to a ripe old age on Death Row. The death penalty is often said to be useless as a deterrant; it will be, so long as it has no teeth. Of course, I’m for bringing back public executions. Caning would work, too–better yet, horsewhipping & tarrring-and-feathering. I guess I really am a redneck. Surprise there!
og, I think we agree more than disagree.
I believe that the DP should be applied (.45 to the back of the head) in the incontrovertible cases.
We had a cop-killer here in MA about a dozen years ago. Ex-con, pulled over at 3AM for speeding, decides he’d rather kill the cop than deal with a speeding ticket (plus there’s the little matter of being an ex-con in possession of a firearm).
He ambushes the cop, shoots him at point blank range. The cop shoots back, puts a 9mm slug right in his head (too bad he didn’t have the former MSP issue .357 Magnum).
Staggers back to his car, calls in “trooper down”. Radios an exact description of the perp and the perp’s van. When back-up arrives, the perp is still there (bleeding from the head). He’s got the gun he shot the cop with in his hand. The cop, still alive, ID’s him as the triggerman.
Now, between you and me, there’s a reason right there that I couldn’t have been a cop. I’d have shot that motherfucker dead, using my service weapon, back-up gun, shot gun, and carbine in the trunk.
But they arrested him (well, called an ambulance to take him to the hospital, then arrested him). Bullet from the cop’s gun lodged in his skull. Murder weapon in his hand.
There was NO DOUBT that he did it.
In those cases, they should be arraigned, a court date set, a fair trial given, and should the sentence be death, a single shot to the back of the head about 20 minutes after the judge’s gavel bangs down…
Yeah, Jay, my single biggest beef is the unreliability of the system.
Same here guys. I have no moral problem with the death penalty; jsut the practical one that the government is by its nature evil, and giving an evil entity the right to kill you without consequence seems like a bad idea to me.
I think we should use the death penalty; in fact I think we should expqand the number of offenses it’s used for greatly (you cant rehabilitate a pedophile or an aggravated rapist). I just worry about the whos and hows.
I actually posted about it a while back here:
http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2006/05/to-be-hanged-by-neck-until-dead.html
I agree. There are far too many repeated appeals plugging up the court system, most of them for prisoners on death row. There shouldn’t even BE a “death row.” Sentence should be executed within 36 hours of the fall of the gavel. Let’s see…that should free up a LOT of cell space in prisons…
The thing about appeals that most people don’t understand is that they don’t retry the case — appeals are intended simply to ensure that there was no mistake made in applying the law, or any procedural error during trial. In capital cases, appeals are automatic upon conviction for this very reason — everyone wants to make sure there was no mistake, so they send it off to be seen by another set of eyes.
In an open and shut case — which, let’s face it, most of them are — a single appeal should suffice to determine whether or not the trial was procedurally correct and the law was applied properly. That means in most capital cases, if the prosecution keeps its nose clean and does its job with reasonable dispatch, it should be possible to execute sentence within days. Yeah, OK, I realize I’m talking about a perfect world — but limitless appeals and constant pestering of the governor for stays needs to stop. The facts of such cases are what they are. Getting sentence commuted to life because of some idiotic technicality is a miscarriage of justice.
And all this worrying about “cruel and unusual punishment” needs to go out the window. Frankly I don’t care if a proven murderer suffers. One shot to the back of the head out back of the courthouse should suffice, and would be a lot cheaper than lethal injection and so forth.
og (& Chris),
I have a feeling we agree a LOT more than we disagree on the death penalty.
My only thought WRT giving the state the power to kill is that we already cede the power to kidnap and imprison to the state. A state that is corrupt enough to kill you can just as easily make you disappear into a very unpleasant place.
The state doesn’t have to kill you. It can put you in situations where someone else will kill you. Or where you’ll kill yourself.
Basically, if we’re going to make the state the arbiter of justice, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to remove an arrow from its quiver. That is to say, the power to terminate the life of a criminal who has proven a reckless disregard for other human life.
In closing, I’d like to quote a good friend of mine that I grew up with. “I don’t believe in the electric chair. I believe it should be modeled more like electric bleachers.”
:)
I also don’t support the death penalty, but most likely for different reasons. With me it is about money. It takes more money to keep somebody on death row than life imprisonment with no possiblitly of parole. So until the gummit stream lines the appeals process I will not encourage the use of capital punishment. But I am glad that SOB Saddam is dead.