IN response to the post below, a commenter calling himself
“A GM guy who knows what happens behind the scenes” refers to the comment by James burnette:

“Fakers, the lot of ‘em. I nearly got escorted off a car lot the other day by a self-righteous salesman who was annoyed that I wanted to know if he had a new Tahoe that was NOT a flex fuel vehicle. He blustered about the environment until I pointed out to him that the amount of gas it takes to produce enough ethanol to make using the corny stuff practical sort of negates the point of ethanol. He had no answer. He just told me maybe I’d find something better suited for me elsewhere. I agreed.”

First, sorry about your experience with the salesperson. He went about reading your intentions completely wrong and instead should’ve simply told you no, to have a good day, and grabbed himself another customer.
But I do have one question for you, if you don’t mind, that is.

What’s your problem with a vehicle can can run on multiple fuels as an option for no additional cost from your pocket?

Well, that would be Jame’s business, and NOT yours. WHatever it is, he’s the customer. GM does not get to dictate or question what he wants.

Do you even understand GM’s motives for pumping out these vehicles?

yes. That would be “to bee seen as appeasing fucktardss who actually believe Ethanol is a reasonable alternative fuel”
To me, the way in which you typed the comment anyway, you simply won’t tolerate any vehicle which is capable of being powered by an alternate fuel source.

Bingo! Why should ANYONE have something patently ignorant foisted upon them?

It also sounds to me like you were searching for reason not to buy, which makes me wonder why you even showed up on the lot in the first place.

No, it sounds to me like he didn’t want Flex fuel. Could it be that you’re projecting? Yeah, I thought so.

Now, nobody here at GM says ethanol is perfect, far from it as a matter of fact. We simply look at it as a viable bridge, while in the midst of ramping up the plug-ins; what we are betting on for the future.

Or, perhaps, as a way to convince the fucktards you “care”. Without actually doing anything useful or meaningful. There is NOTHING viable about ethanol/E85

We also consider ethanol a somewhat reasonable way to get some folks off foreign oil while we complete our next set of projects.

You’re horribly bad at math, aren’t you?

If you think this oil issue has an overnight, or even 5-10 year repair, you’re wrong, and dare I say, dangerously naive.


Actually, the only thing preventing the oil issue from having an overnight solution is the EPA, the Sierra club, the morons who prevent new wells from being drilled in the USA and new refineries built here.

What’s being done now is a multiple year project, with multiple possible outcomes, some of which haven’t even been considered yet and I can assure you that we have some of the brightest minds in the world working on them. Nobody on the entire planet, to include the Japanese, has the complete answer yet.

Um, wrong. Anyone with two active brain cells has the answer, and that is to drill for oil HERE and take the market back from the arabs.

The ethanol option is one way, and one way only, and there isn’t one person alive who thinks it’s the exact way. Nobody is requiring you to take it. It’s simply there for your convenience, and that’s all.

Um, no. It’s NOT “one way”. It’s failed tech. Period. Buying a car thus equipped is like buying a camera equipped to use MagicCubes. In ten years there will be no point.

I apologize for the long comment Og.

No problem. Don’t come here pretenting to know anything about this, for you do not, and its an insult to the fine people at GM and their products to suggest you know anything; you prove by everything you say that you do not.

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This is (as I suspected) a good friend and longtime commenter here. And I’m jerking his chain. Because it’s fun to poke big bears with sticks.