I was gonna clean my room, but then I got high.
Dennis discusses the value of Dope in our country, with special emphasis on, you know- dopes.
The specific dope in question is Andrew Sullivan. yes, the same Andrew Sullivan who nominated Vman for a Hewett award, the same Andrew who speaks about 12 hours of buttsecs, which Vman dissects here.
In any event Sully has made the case that “responsible pot-use is already compatible with middle-class life and its obligations.”
And Dennis dissects this, finding the layers of bullshit, and typically, stoners come in and defend their habit. Proving Dennis’ point with more certainty than ever.
Look: I don’t give a flying rats ass what you do with your body; frankly, just don’t ask me to pay for it. You have the free will to do whatever the hell you want, as do I. You just have to remember these few things:
If, as Dennis says, you smoke dope, you’re helping to support a large criminal class. Making dopesmoking legal would modify this, but not a lot. And making dopesmoking legal would not make it a good idea.
Sure, sure. Some people have pain which can be alleviated by smoking dope. Some people have pain which can be alleviated by drinking laudanum, too; during the latter stages of his bone marrow cancer, my grandfather drank the stuff like kool-ade.
Sometimes life is just painful. Trust me on this; I know firsthand. I could take a lot of things to deal with the pain, i have scrips for some really high powered stuff, which I have never filled. I take the occasional NSAID, which is about all I ever do. Withdrawal from even the mildest opiates is torturous for me, I’d rather, frankly, have the pain than smoke myself stupid.
There are some people for whom even the slightest taste of alcohol is a big problem. I’m damned near there myself, a glass of wine or the occasional beer on a hot, hot day are my hard limits for alcohol. And there are people who can deal with a heroin addiction and live a long life- look what Burroughs did. The unintended consequences, as Dennis states, are the fly in the ointment.
H/T Ed Hering.
24 comments Og | Uncategorized
Once told some people “Fine, legalize it for adults. I want a proviso: you screw yourself up to the point you can’t take care of yourself, you get NO money from the public purse. Some charity or church will help you, fine; but NOT ONE DAMNED PENNY taken from other people by the government to care for you.
Oh, and anyone who sells or gives the stuff to kids gets either a whipping post or a rope.”
For some reason a lot of the ‘Legalize drugs!’ people consider ‘using the public purse to take care of brain-fried druggies’ to be part of the deal.
Red, you need to back away from the bong yourself, methinks.
yeah, and you’re banned again. Jesus, what a fucktard. Red: Before you can be successful at sarcasm, you need to have a little intellect; the ham-handed attempt I just sent to spam wasn’t worthy of a two year old, and being an ass is why you got thrown out of here in the first place.
You have no clue, about anything, period. Pitiably, that just means that someday you’ll need Brigid’s professional services, and I’m damned if I’ll be surprised.
OMG Og,
Hey, Redbone. Come play at my blog where you may flush out your thinking behind “Every last penny of the fed’s tax revenue is spent on social security, medicare and medicaide. All else is borrowed. Why in hell are we allocating all of our coutry’s resources to take care of old people? It would seem to me to be a much better idea to divide the resources more equally, say by actual percentages. That old people are chewing up such a vast amount of our resources is a travesty.”
There are virtually no people in positions of higher authority who react to your hatred of humans as Og has. Try to convince my readers how your sort of thinking is actually humaine and not misanthropic. You’d be offering a service to mankind. You can email me of response on one of my Mathusian or misanthropic threads.
of response= or respond.Sorry Og.
Don’t sweat it, Pasc. I have a pile of broken bricks in my backyard, send me a snailmail address and I’ll send one to you. You’ll get through to it before you get through to Redbone.
Dang, I missed all the fun.
Redbone banned? …and then banned again?
Whoa.
The only reason I kind of half assed support legalization is because I think the legal penalties are way out of proportion with the crime (at least with pot). I would rather have a jail cell occupied by someone who pulled an armed robbery once over someone busted with marijuana 40 times, and given that jail space is limited all too often the real assholes plea bargain and get out way too early while some dumbass caught selling bongs out of a basement does hard time.
No question, Grau. It’s a difficult situation with no asy answers- but the answer to “Are dopesmokers losers?” is still “Well, duh, yes”
Have to agree with what has been said so far. I wonder if going one step further, legalize all the junk … BUT you screw up to the point where your actions are blatantly anti-social, then I have the right (indeed the responsibility) to put you down quickly and cleanly, assuming the local LEO hasn’t done so already. Oh, and get caught under the influence, you lose your driving privilege, If you are in an accident which causes death or dismemberment to another party, you are, ala RAH’s example in “Number of the Beast” (I think), you are placed in the same condition/physical status as the injured/deceased party.
Think that about covers it… I miss anything?
I agree Og. I won;t lie and say I have never partaken of the demon herb (personally don;t see what the big deal is, all it did was make me less mellow that 3 beers and so goddamn hungry I could gnaw off Helen Thomas’ bunions) but the overwhelming majority of people I know who smoke pot on a regular basis are fucking losers, pure and simple.
I would just rather have a gangbanger behind bars than Tommy Chong. And the federales using the “War on drugs” to expand their powers to kick in your door, shoot your pets, and confiscate and sell private property pisses me off more than a little.
BTW to anyone who thinks I fall into the “defending their filthy habit” territory: I haven’t had any kind of illegal substance in my body since my early 20’s, and I’m so paranoid about getting a false positive (I work someplace that does random drops) I don’t even anything with poppy seeds on it.
Disclaimer-
Moonshine is excluded from the illegal substance list for the duration of this comment :)
And on a side note, you’d thing after 2 years using this laptop I’d be used to the smaller keyboard and stop putting in a ; instead of a ‘.
Or at least fix it. Gah.
Maybe I am high, it would explain why I polished off a whole Italian beef sandwich on garlic bread smothered in cheese AND 3 pieces of pizza tonight…
Grau,
Who needs pot to eat like that, sounds like appetizers around here…..
Instead of complaining about how legalizing drugs might put more strain on the medical system (More than there is now with drugs being illegal and STILL a multi-billion-dollar market?), how about complaining that BOTH defining natural substances as contraband AND requiring by force that taxpayers support charitable medical spending are odious statist policies and should be resisted by all liberty-loving patriots everywhere?
M
And I agree: Andrew Sullivan is a dope. Why anybody yet pays attention to him is beyond me.
M
Agree and agree Mark. I haven’t even read Sully’s crap in years.
Andrew who? *grin*
My big problem with legalizing anything, is that you legalize the advertisement/promotion for it.
At that point, kids are seeing that it’s the adult thing to do ala Captain Morgan (if you consider that adult behavior LOL).
“What do you think executives at Philip Morris dream of at night? They dream of the day they can sell cannabis cigarettes to all the morons who are attacking them for selling tobacco!”
Yar! This one rocked my world too. gmta
Which sales will be allowed because most of the nannies who want to ban tobacco will INSIST that smoking weed or whatever is a whole different thing that must be allowed.
Vman said sorry for his mistake in that post here
http://keeskennis.blogspot.com/2009/10/dis-agreeing-with-vman.html
Ahhhh, the good ol’ Fisty. I remember Vman bestowing that one on someone and then Anna (of Primal Purge) feeling inspired to create the actual image which is shown in Keeskeenis’ post. Shit, now I’m all nostalgic for the golden age of blodging. I get depressed when I think about how there’ll never be another new post from Acidman. Sad, eh?
Well, if you’d bust out a post now and then yourself, you lazy bastard, it would help, but nooooo. You had to shut the blog down.
Well, it was kinda hard to write what I want after coworkers were pointed toward my blog. These days I settle for sneaking one in over at T1G’s. And smart-assy comments. Oh, I still do love leaving those.