We have, in this country
as is becoming more and more apparent, a mental health issue.
B, and others, might seem a little paranoid, but I’m right there with him; I fully expect that these “Events” are being orchestrated and then co-ordinated withthe Agency of Lies.
But these things also happen regardless of outside influence; there are just some people who do not have the filter that tells them it is not ok to solve problems with violence visited upon the innocent. (I have no issue whatsoever with violence visited upon the guilty).
That kind of mental health issue is a dirty little secret in this country, and few know about it. My cousin was a prominent mental health expert, a man who had done so well in his education that he could and did have his pick of the top positions in his field. And he did.
And then he found out that the entire profession was focused on the idea that you open your office, hang a shingle, and hope for enough well off people with enough disposable income and hold their hands for thirty years, living the high life in the meantime.
he quit, and ran a large restaurant franchise instead.
Mental health is the rodney dangerfield of medical conditions,a nd it does not have to be, but at least Obamacare will fix it, right? People think “All you have to do is not be depressed” or bipolar or whatever, and it doesn’t work like that.
There exists the ability to provide meaningful treatment for those with mental health issues, and few people actually use it.
This, not puritanism or the desire to “Control someone’s body” is what makes me want to prevent rampant recreational drug use; take a look at the people who do most of this bullshit and tell me what kind of recreational drugs they have in their system.
Updated to add: In case anyone doesn’t understand the point of this post, it is threefold:
1: Is this contrived? I think it might be. Also, this. mr Feelgood got your blood boiling yet?
2: Prescription drugs properly prescribed to help people with legitimate mental health issues = good.
3: letting whackjobs have unfettered access to recreational drugs to which they have no idea how they will react = bad.
Clear?
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OG! Recreational drugs?? It’s the damn professionally authorized, big-pharma, fda approved pills that scare me.
From the Lunesta warning;
Walking, eating, driving or engaging in other activities while asleep without remembering it the next day have been reported. Other abnormal behaviors include aggressiveness, agitation, hallucinations and confusion. In depressed patients, worsening of depression including risk of suicide may occur.
I’ll deal with a stoner any day, over a suicidal depressive that suddenly quit his Ambien-Cymbalta-Plaxil cocktail.
I disagree … mental health problems are more like the “Dancing with the Stars” of health care. Not feeling ecstatic this week? We gotta pill for that!
Art: i can take you places that will change your mind instantly.
Let’s schedule the field trip Og.
Then we’ll tour the lock-down wards?
Sipsey links to a sobering Mom’s eye view of the psychotic among us.
Anytime, Art. I look forward to opening your eyes.
If you think that making dope, meth, crack, heroin, etc. etc. etc. will suddenly make everyone with mental health issues much better, then I have to wonder what it is you’re smoking. because you ignored the whole point of the post and focused with laser accuracy on the one thing you think is WRONG, DUDE!!!!
You have no idea what real mental health problems are like, and I can drive to a friends house and he can drive you to one of HIS friends house, and then you will apologise for your ignorance. I live in Northwest indiana, and I will be free in about an hour (After I finish writing checks for the bills). How soon can you be here?
I admit that I agree with B. The first thing out of my mouth when I heard about Newtown was, “Somebody has got to be setting these things up.” The Bradys? Bloomberg? Holder? Who knows, but all these incidents are starting to smell staged.
Yep, Nathan, I think we are being sold a series of “Potemkin mishaps” to coin a phrase.
Never said that dope, meth, crack and heroin will make things better.
We’re in AGREEMENT that mental health is a key issue.
To your point, edited to make MY point; “take a look at the people who do most of this bullshit and tell me what kind of PRESCRIBED drugs they have in their system.”
PS – Smoking Pall Mall Reds this mornin. S’pose thats a mental health issue too.
PSS – I’ve worked on psychiatric wards. Plus I’ve done work in Gary, have family in Schererville and Dyer … and if ya met some of my family, you’d know that I’m familiar with mental health issues.
Lets schedule tour(s) offline.
Plus … your primary point … CONSPIRACY? Really? Naw. While my lizard brain wants to go there … the simplest answer is another tragedy that will be leveraged to the Progs political ends. Could it be? I s’pose. Occums razor says probably not.
This crisis will not go to waste. Obummers appearance today in Newtown is the opening act.
Art: Please do indeed reread the post, and see if you can garner some small grain of what I’m talking about. When you have, do please come demonstrrate your understanding of what I wrote, and not what you read. Here’s a clue to get you a little closer to the facts: The post is about mental health. Oddly enough it isn’t about the legality or illegality of drugs. It IS about the fact that morons are always anxious to say “It’s MY BODY! I should be able to do whatever I want with it, man!!!” Except that if you’re fucked to begin with, those wonderful “Recreational” drugs don’t exactly do much to make anything better, do they? Wheras the prescription drugs that are prescribed by responsible medical professionals do help people-m a LOT of people, and do so all day, every day, all over the country. I live within 900 yards of Teibels, I imagine you know where that is. I can be in their parking lot in an hour and introduce you to one person just like that, who would be in an institution without the proper prescription medication- with which, that person is sound as a dollar. I can also take you to the home of a person who is damned near homeless and pretty nearly clinically out of his mind, and who would be helped by the correct prescription meds and who probably isn’t being helped by the dope he is smoking. Would you like to apologise now, for being an ass who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or in the parking lot of Teibels in person in an hour?
Hang onto your seat; it’s going to be a bumpy ride for Second Amendment defenders
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/cedar-lake/cedar-lake-man-with-guns-arrested-after-school-threat/article_bf17d8ff-7cd4-5878-be25-a26117bac6c9.html
Isn’t that guy’s picture in the dictionary next to the definition of “Democrat”?
Smells like another put-up job.
ya think?
Fed:”You’re going to the Big House”
Motorcycle gang guy:”Is there something I can do?”
Fed” Yes, pretend to be preparing for a massacre and we’ll let you have a few years in Club Fed and let you out for good behavior”
Lack of treatment and medication = bad. Improper self-medication = bad. Proper, supervised medication and treatment = good. Most serious mental health problems do indeed require knowledgeable outside help.
And misdiagnosis is rampant. Took me 15 years of misdiagnosis of depression and anxiety to get to the core of both problems (ADHD) and get on an anti-depressant that worked. Adderall, or legalized meth, was a revelation. It doesn’t make me high, it just makes my brain work better. Adderall gives me far more mental, emotional, and impulse control, whereas a methhead experiences the opposite. But I take it under supervision and I’m careful to avoid developing an addiction.
Everyone is different. Everyone’s brain is different and everyone’s chemistry is different, sometimes in awful ways. Anyone who ignores that and thinks that there’s some one-size-fits-all solution is deluding themselves.
Some people are so mentally ill that they can’t function safely in society. Sometimes that can be helped, sometimes it can’t. No one is helped by ignoring the problem or pretending mental health issues don’t exist.
Gadzooks, I don’t even PRETEND to know what the solution to mental illness is.
Lock ’em up for life? Too rife for abuse; we’re in this boat because such institutions were hellholes. Besides, it costs far too much and we’re already broke.
Leaving ’em on the street isn’t the answer, either. Obviously.
I do agree that allowing unfettered access to recreational pharmaceuticals is not going to help these people one whit, but in the larger sense we’ve obviously done so poorly with Prohibition 2.0 that something else must be tried.
And “contrived”? Five years ago–three years ago!–I would have dismissed something like that out of hand as paranoid fantasy. Having seen this administration get away with “Fast and Furious”, though, I can no longer do that.
“we’ve obviously done so poorly with Prohibition 2.0 that something else must be tried.”
Couldn’t agree more; my point is that we need to have an honest discussion about mental health and establish some meaningful methods of dealing with it. Mrs Byrne, you are only one of MANY people I know who are doing just fine given the correctly prescribed and properly monitored medication. The concept that it makes sense to “deal with a stoner any day, over a suicidal depressive that suddenly quit his Ambien-Cymbalta-Plaxil cocktail.” is ignorant and dangerous in the extreme.
I noticed that the media are taking great care to warn us against stigmatizing any of the mental conditions he may have had, which is completely fair and reasonable since the vast majority of people with any of those conditions are not predisposed to violence.
But at the same time, the media are not the least bit concerned about stigmatizing tens of millions of gun owners, despite the fact that the vast majority of us are not predisposed to violence, either…
The jug eared One will obviously milk this tragedy since FnF didn’t pan out the way it was designed to…
A question I have as it relates to mental health is the affect long hours of playing video games and ‘killing people’ with these games has a diseased mind’s grasp of reality?
The only thing I know about people afflicted with mental health problems, from personal experience, is most often they have NO internal guides or limits on behavior and it becomes excessive by almost any definition.
I’m not trying to say video games are at fault wit the Sandy Hook elementary tragedy, but I sure wonder what effect these things have someone who is unbalanced to start with?
Then add in drugs and it seems reasonable THAT is a cocktail for disaster…
All The Best,
Frank W. James
Indeed. Thousands of people smoke dope, thousands of people play violent video games, thousands of people have guns and don’t shoot up elementary schools. The common denominator is- exactly as you say- “someone who is unbalanced to start with”.