The buck starts here
Hale is still bound and determined that the taxpayer is no authority over the civil servant, repeating the notion that he has been trained to repeat, that the taxpayer has no right to expect the civil servant to do his or her job, which is of course the merest bullshit. The plain fact is, they do.
He is certainly correct in that this is not the way it currently IS, but that’s not a patch on the fact that this is how it is designed to be.
When BP had it’s oil spill it was forced to fork over truckloads of cash to people, and it forked over even more truckloads of cash to people on it’s own. Despite the money it was losing and the media frenzy public relations disaster that surrounded it. In the end, the environmental impact was far less than it was suspected it would be, and BP is still paying people off. That’s how business works, and that’s how the government is supposed to work; to provide the consumer with service above and beyond the call.
The standard shibboleth of the unaccountable is the cop analogy, and Hale went right for it. “A cop pulls a guy over for speeding”
No. We are not criminals. Expecting to get the government we pay for, no more, and NO LESS, is not a criminal activity. We are not speeders asking to be let off a ticket because “We pay the cops salary!” We are consumers of a product- governance- that deserve to have the actions of that governance accountable to us. it isn’t, and the people who provide it are not, and they- like Hale- believe that they do not deserve to be held accountable, and that is in fact the problem in whole. So they have put the rest of us in the role of criminal because that is the only way this ignorance can be reconciled.
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Hale is one of those on the dole as his title is professor. Since all of his students have student loans which are all part and parcel underwritten by the USA which only has one source of revenue.
I take every thing he says with a very large dose of salt.
No, Paul, I think Hale is a techie type guy who works for one of the .mil or .gov agencies. He’s very smart, but totally blind on this subject. I was kinda hoping he could drag himself off that cross he’s nailed himself to and learn something, because I have a lot of respect for him, and his future depends on learning the truth of this matter.
Sorry. Hale’s right and you’re wrong.
Saying the taxpayer has authority over the civil servant is pretty much exactly like saying the Marine corporal has say-so over who is eligible to be the Commander-in-Chief. It just does not and never has worked that way.
Your authority over the civil servant ends with your signature on a complaint letter to the appropriate agency/representative who actually has authority over the civil servant. Or, it ends with the submission of your ballot at the voting booth, where you get to make your selection of the people who make the laws/regulations which form the structure under which the civil servant operates.
Oh, and what in hell are you saying with your BP/government allegory? That bribery is good and the way things are supposed to operate? Or, that extortion is good and is the way things are supposed to operate?
Arcs: You haven’t understood a thing yet. Please copy paste anyplace where I said that was the case. you won’t, because you can’t, because I didn’t. I am unassailably correct in this. think you can prove otherwise? prepare to be filletted.
“Oh, and what in hell are you saying with your BP/government allegory? That bribery is good and the way things are supposed to operate? Or, that extortion is good and is the way things are supposed to operate? ”
Reading comprehension fail.
That’s about what I expected. Thanks.
That’s all you can expect when you’re wrong.
if you could prove me wrong, that would be a whole different story, but running away after making a snide remark is what I have come to expect of intellectual cowards. You “Feel” something so it must therefore be correct. Funny how that withers in the face of facts.
Throw a fact.
You completely misunderstood the point of the post. Fact. if it’s not, demonstrate your brilliance by nutshelling it for me.
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As I expected.