Look, people.
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Personally, I don’t really care if you like to smoke pole or bump uglies; trust me, there are things I have done myself, that if you saw them, would make you curl up in the fetal position, after you stopped vomiting. I really, really don’t care what you do, how you do it, or who you do it to, so long as they are capable of consenting, and do.
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And if I ran a business that made wedding cakes, and a group of three Sinhalese boys came in who wanted a wedding cake with a sculpture of them sucking each other off, I would do my best to make them happy. Not in any personal physical way. Because if they are participating in a sin, that sin is theirs and theirs alone, I’m just making a cake.
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That’s just me. Actually, most of the people who seem to have most of the issues with this are fundamentalists of one stripe or another, and that’s their business, not mine.
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But I understand what is going on. What is going on, is Paul and Fred are driving past Bruce’s All Gay All the Time there’s No business like SHOW business handjobs while you wait cake store, to demand service at Mabels Bakery. Not because Mabel makes a better cake, lord knows I get my cakes from Bruce myself, but because Mabel has religious convictions and Paul and Fred feel bad that Mabel is judging them and Mabel must be punished. The problem here is not Mabel, the problem here, is Paul and Fred are assholes. I don’t think we should write new caselaw to protect Mabel from Paul and Fred, I think the caselaw that says everyone must serve anyone should be struck down.
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Don’t get me wrong, if I owned a building that someone wanted to rent from me to turn into an abortion clinic, I would burn it to the ground and salt the earth and do prison time if necessary before I allowed that to happen. because that would be me abetting a grave sin on the part of many, and would specifically endanger my immortal soul.
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Baking a cake for someone who is themself in a state of sin is, well, almost unavoidable. Not just because they’re gay, or lesbian, but because they spent that week in Cabo long before they tied the knot, or any number of other reasons. We are all sinners. I may be their king.
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People are determined to be dicks. The LGBT community is acting as if it were a virtue. Dish it, people, Christians have a history of persecution. We’re still here, and we won’t be going anywhere soon.
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26 comments Og | Uncategorized
Yeah, I really don’t understand the whole “Let’s be dicks to that baker/bakery just because we can” thing. I mean it’s not like they’re going to EAT the resulting cake, right? Or are they that dumb?
My bit: give them their minimum service, keep the lip to yourself.
Perhaps Mabel feels about making a cake for those 3 queers the same way you do about abortions in your building.
Me, I’da made the cake so poorly that they would have refused it. Lopsided, crooked, wrong color, etc.
Food forthought: Posted today. http://middleoftheright.blogspot.com/2015/03/liberal-logic.html
Making the cake does not specifically result in the death of a human being. Mabel can feel any way she wants about it, but unless it’s a truly awful cake, it will probably not end up killing thousands of babies.
I bet I could make a cake nobody would want to eat! lol.
Personally I would frog march fred and paul out the door and beat them with the biggest stick I could find.
Might explain why I am not terribly popular.
Not that I give a hairy rats butt.
I do not understand why right after a gay person tells you their name they feel compelled to tell you there sexual preference. What is up with that.
I looked to excerpt the lyrics here, but I couldn’t find just the right bit to lift. So, here it is, all of it.
Mac Arthur Park:
Spring was never waiting for us, girl
It ran one g step ahead
As we followed in the dance
Between the parted pages and were pressed
In love’s hot, fevered iron
Like a striped pair of pants
MacArthur’s Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don’t think that I can take it
‘Cause it took so long to bake it
And I’ll never have that recipe again, oh noooooo
I recall the yellow cotton dress
Foaming like a wave
On the ground around your knees
Birds like tender babies in your hands
And the old men playing checkers, by the trees
MacArthur’s Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don’t think that I can take it
‘Cause it took so long to bake it
And I’ll never have that recipe again, oh noooooo
(Short instrumental interlude)
There would be another song for me
For I will sing it
There would be another dream for me
Someone will bring it
I will drink the wine while it is warm
And never let you catch me looking at the sun
And after all the loves of my life
After all the loves of my life, you’ll still be the one
I will take my life into my hands and I will use it
I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it
I will have the things that I desire
And my passion flow like rivers through the sky
And after all the loves of my life
Oh, after all the loves of my life
I’ll be thinking of you – and wondering why
(Longer instrumental interlude)
MacArthur’s Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don’t think that I can take it
‘Cause it took so long to bake it
And I’ll never have that recipe again
Oh noooooo, o-oh no-ooooo
Blame me for the earworm. Someone more talented than me perhaps, could adapt the song & lyric to fit the gist of Og’s post?
The song and the post do seem to synch, a bit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
The more victories they get, the angrier they become. I sometimes wonder if their subconscious knows what they do is wrong, and they’re lashing out at society for allowing them to win acceptance of their behavior instead of telling them no and reaffirming that this is something not to promote but, like they originally wanted, simply tolerated.
They want it to be illegal to call what they do wrong, and by extension they want any effort to make their thing curable and treatable illegal. If they really are born that way, gene therapy in the future may fix things, and if they’re not born that way, then that changes the entire thing and makes them culpable. If someone went for treatment for let’s say Tourette’s, it shouldn’t be illegal, but if someone wanted to turn from the homosexual lifestyle and there was a group like the Catholic group Courage to help them, that would now be illegal, if not for this law.
Amazing how they want special treatment for the law to be expanded for their behavior, though no society pagan or secular did this no matter how licentious same-sex-wise they otherwise were (ancient Greece I’m looking at you) but other diversities they have hate for. It seems homosexuals have it in specially for bigamists who likewise want their day in the sun, and slam the door in the face of them getting their just due. Some animistic Nigerian comes over with his two wives and the state doesn’t allow him to claim both as wife on taxes and other official documents, and that’s not a violation of the Nigerian’s civil rights, uh huh? Meanwhile, many Americans everywhere live in a state of de facto if not du jure polygamy, either serial or parallel, spouse at home and a second sweetie off somewhere, or an ex who is still available for a “visit” when the current one is not in the mood, mention let them all marry and knock off the pretense, and people for forcing others to accept and celebrate gay marriage against their beliefs go nuts as much as any bible thumping conservative they’ve ever run across.
I have over 785 sins to go to hell for, so my forced acceptance or natural revulsion at the thought of Bubba marrying his cell mate is of no note. But a lot of people who are so much better than me that I am not worthy to loosen their shoe laces, people of better substance and goodness, to see them targeted and sought out for this abuse, this is what has me supporting this bill against such attack. I am compelled to stop an idiot trying to force a certified engineer via the weapon of the state to agree that 2+2=5 against his training, experience, and common sense, so to speak.
“I do not understand why right after a gay person tells you their name they feel compelled to tell you there sexual preference. What is up with that.”
I always thought that if the most important thing about you was the mechanics by which you seek sexual gratification, you’re a pretty boring person.
I personally don’t wish to know how other people have sex. I therefore don’t get in other people’s faces about how I have sex, because I assume they don’t want to know either.
I gotta buy Easter candy.
Don’t wanna buy it from Christian bashers though.
How can I be sure…?
Things are SO screwed up.
Think we need another flood.
Fred
Freddie: the people who own and operate albanese candy in merrilville are Christian, and you can buy from them online.
Like I said often. Christians need to learn to be better liars and practice it religiously.
Paul and Fred want a cake? Yes sir. I can pencil you in for three years from now. If something else becomes available sooner would you like me to call you?
A cake maker should never make a bad cake for a paying customer. It is bad for business.
It’s not just LGBT. All Atheists are assholes by definition. They aren’t assholes about leprechauns and unicorns because they don’t exist. That would just be stupid. God does exist and they hate his guts.
How can I be sure…?
Live in a cloistered community where you know everyone. Like the Amish. They never have to ask if the Nissan mechanic in this town is a crook.
This is one of those scenarios where it’s a damn good thing that I’m not a judge. My ruling would be that Paul, Fred, and Mabel are ALL guilty of being assholes, the remedy for which is a) they cease the asshole behavior RIGHT NOW, or b) they be horse-whipped until option a starts looking like a good idea.
The only cure for this is to repeal the civil rights act of 1964 and allow private businesses and customers to decide for themselves, without government interference, who they would like to do business with.
Or amend the CRA so that it only applies to governments.
If you allow your government to tell you who you can hire, fire, and serve, they will.
Maybe I am missing the point. (Wouldn’t be anywhere near the first time for that, just ask my sweetieheart!)
Can’t we go back to a simpler time. If buisness A doesn’t want to do buisness with any group other than white anglo-saxon protestent males, that should be their choice. Just as it should be my choice to either support that business or not (and if I am not part of the group they chose to support, I can, at the very least, pass the information along to all my friends, family, co-workers, not to go there.). In other worlds, let the market decide if you are making the best choices regarding your clientel.
“Smoking in Bars”… if my bar allows for this, you as a customer have a choice either come in and deal with it, or go elsewhere. If enough folks elect to go elsewhere, then I will either have to live with the smaller customer base, close down, or no longer allow for smoking, and see if my numbers increase….it should never be up to the state to dictate whom I desire to have as a client/cutomer, short of selling restricted products to minors.
If I don’t want to serve those who are of the LGBT lifestyle, then my buisness will suffer the negative (or positive) consequences for it.
I guess I am tired of the state dictating what can and cannot be done, to the degree it is doing so…my butthurt is becoming inflamed from all the other butthurt out there, and there is a shortage of preperation H!
As much as I agree with “Mabel” and her right to refuse service on religious grounds, this stupid law that Pence has signed instead of vetoed is not how you fix the problem.
The free market could shake this out in jig time, but the LGBT community isn’t interested in the free market. They want people officially shamed.
Shamed and punished, using the full force of law. This is no different from DOMA, put together by a democrat so some other democrat can make a big show of knocking it down later.
Short version…ya all can take it from there…installing entertainment gear into new entertainment shelves/wall.
Swish was never grating to us Cyril
It pranced one step ahead
As we sashayed in the dance
Between two closet queens, so oppressed
In love’s hot fevered iron
In a pair of ass-less chaps
The LBGTs are mating in the dark
All the normal folks are losing ground
Someones forced to make their dammed gay cake
I don’t think that I can take it
‘Cause the state says I must bake it
And the butt-hurt won’t stop here, with this,
oh nooooooo
The bottom line is that when the LGBT community uses the State to force me into involuntary participation of an activity of which I do not approve, then they have become the enemy. Just because they’re not marching me off into a cattle car (yet) doesn’t mean that the methods aren’t the same.
If you’re willing to force me to perform an action I am unwilling to take on my own, you are a de-facto fascist. Or some form of Nazi. I don’t care about the particulars, you are an enemy that should be hauled off and shot for your anti-freedom views, because people like that will NEVER EVER STOP, and you can only remove them, like a gangrenous foot, before they destroy the whole body.
The part that kills me about the entire situation is that the original offense was at the complete petty bullshit level.
It’s not as if the Christian SS are rounding up the LGBT community and trucking them down to Konzentrationslager Beech Grove where they will be gassed and fed to the fire.*
This was about a refusal to produce iced and decorated cookies, for $DEITY’s sake.
Perspective, much?
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* Sorry for Godwinning the thread.
But those nasty Christian breeders have to be PUNISHED.
Except gay people just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace, dont you know. I hope there isnt anyone out there who still buys THAT nonsense.
Used to watch a comedian named Dave Allen. He had a joke about the “brain drain” going on at the time in Britain, the smart ones becoming ex-pats:
I asked John why he was moving overseas. He said, “100 years ago, they hung you for being homosexual. 50 years ago, they jailed you. 25 years ago, they put you in an asylum. Now, it’s totally fine.” What on earth does that have to do with you leaving Britain? “I want to get out before they make it mandatory.”
That joke used to make me laugh. Now it makes by keester pucker. If this continues, you MAY have to play along and have a gay affair to prove you’re not a racist bigot who should be shunned and who shall lose his job or have his business shut down. Be my sad luck they’d pair me with fricking Og.
Roflmao.
I was at the Capitol today in Indy when the marchers went by. They aren’t the tolerant types. Let me assure you.
Just when you need a sticky throttle…