Gun School.
I want to go to Gun School like the cool kids do. But I don’t want to go to the wrong gun school, and I sure as hell don’t want to go to a gun school where I’m that guy. You know, the guy who is hopelessly lost and causes the entire class to have to slow down so he can catch up- if he does at all.
I have heard things about schools, and some of them are fairly intimidating. I tend to lump schools into , lets say, five different categories, and here they are, grossly oversimplified.
1: Basic NRA class. My amigo Mr B teaches these, and they constitute safe firearms handling and basic shooting. I have not attended one though I have witnessed enough of them to understand that’s where everyone ought to begin.
2: Basic marksmanship. Still very simplistic but emphasizing grip, and sight picture and target acquisition, and what sort of habits not to develop and what sort of habits to break. This, I think, is what I need the very most right now.
3: Gun use and the law style classes, which go into detail as to what you should be doing in a live fire situation, how to do it, how to survive it, and what to avoid. This, I get the impression, is the Massad Ayoob specialty. I want very much to take one of these classes, but not until I have mastered #2.
4: Advanced training in simulated situations by actual professionals who have lived the life and are willing to pass on their experience. I know I am nowhere near able to do any of this, at least in part due to some physical limitations but also because of my total lack of #2 and #3.
5: Tactiderp. In this category I include most out of state concealed carry classes. The Utah cc class I went to, the instructor taught everyone to teacup and told us the weaver stance was so we could easily weave back and forth out of the way of incoming fire. Ok, Neo. Also in this category are any gunstores who sponsor classes to show the “Little Ladies” how to handle mean old guns and put things like 38 special Plus P loads in pink gripped Smith scandium frame revolvers and hand them to 90 lb elderly aunts. Finally in this category is the expensive tactical school where you will learn what will and won’t get you killed on the street from some mall ninja.
I know this is a really gross oversimplification, but I’m hoping someone I know will take this subject and do it right, and put together a list of the good, the bad, and the ugly, and the people who teach them and what they are like, and what sort of skill levels you need to get into them, etc. and what the most useful ones are for all skill levels.
18 comments Og | Uncategorized
I’ve taken several Ayoob classes. He’s redefined them a bit since then, but his combo law class does a fairly decent job of taking care of your number two.
Based on my military career I can stand pretty solidly on my opinion that I am an expert in training. Not just gun training, but generic training. I can tell you with certainty that unless you intend to reinforce that training with constant practice, it will quickly attrophy and become less useful to you with each passing day. I can also tell you with near certainty that bad training is worse than no training since it ingrains into you habits that will have to be unlearned. And many people become emotionally attached to their bad habits.
In conclusion: Since you likely will not set up your own tacticool range in your back yard to keep your skills refreshed, any training you get is only going to be worth the fun of going, not the skill you will take home. Go pick one that looks fun and enjoy yourself.
I have an increasing number of places I can shoot, and I shoot more every week. I understand that those skills are perishable, and intend to take the time to keep them useful. What I don’t want to do, right now, is to spend another 3-4000 rounds of ammo doing it wrong. I’d much rather practice after having been given some good instruction, so the habits I reinforce are good ones, and not the same bad ones I have now.
Not sure if you follow her, but you probably need to contact Tam at booksbikesboomsticks.com… She has been to a large number of classes both for personal and review purposes…also she’s not afraid to mention her own shortcomings and how they were handled in her blog
Chris: Did you clock on the second link in the post?
Ref. Prof. Hale’s comment:
There is a common confusion between “training”, “practice”, and “testing”.
“I’m going to the range to do some self-training,” and “I get my training at IDPA matches” are two erroneous statements you’ll see spring from this confusion of terms.
Exactly. I need some training. Once I get it, I will practice the skills it taught me, and then I may shoot in a match to test those skills to see fi I got it right and was paying attention.
Many years ago while working in Californicate, I had a chance to go to a weekend class done by a guy named Kent Turnipseed. As far as a class to teach one how to hold and shoot and hit what you were aiming at it really did the trick for me. 25+years later I still use the technique that he taught. And I still qualify twice a year for the security job I do.
I’m known in some circles as being rather accurate with a S&W wheelgun.
That said, I only finish in the top 1/3 at our local, non-registered Monday night IDPA run. Great hit percentage, slow as a dog on the reloads.
I’d have to invest in a 2nd Model 28, get the chambers chamfered for easier loading, get some dedicated belt gear, etc., just to “make ready” for the right kind of training.
And yes, I believe that Tam would make me look fast as molasses in February if I shot in the same match with her. All that training she takes in will prove out in the times and scores. I’ll eat my humble pie right now, thankyouverymuch.
Thing is, I came up shooting mostly PPC in the ’70s & ’80s. Not much of a “game” in shooting macth terms. It’s really only a bit more action-y than NRA Bullseye.
But, I’m ever grateful for the degree of skill in accuracy I developed in those years. At least I can gain new skills in training, from a solid foundation in that department.
Oh, and I’ll add one more category to Og’s list of trainers and types of training.
Regional info. I’d like to know which of those trainers, offers what ,and where, too.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Have you tried one of the appleseed shoots? I keep trying to get out to one, but work usually interferes. Was signed up for a whole weekend deal they had going (paid for in advance) and got scheduled for the whole weekend at work.
I’d sure like to try that, but no, not yet.
Dunno. training might be nice. I’m interested in some of the stuff mountain guerrilla is doing,
missed the link… oops… you were way ahead of me…
Og is usually ahead of most of us :)
it’s on the sidebar, too. Reading Tam is one of the reasons I started blogging. As far as being ahead, well, so long as I’m downwind, for everyone’s safety.
Tam. Period… :-) And Prof is right.
I would suggest Tiger McKee and Shootrite Firearms Academy. I’ve taken a couple of courses there and was impressed. The range is in north Alabama. Easy going guy with a very professional attitude. I was also impressed by the people he had assist with the courses. Prior to the class I had experience with shooting but never any professional training.
Just my .02 worth :)
jd
Randy Cain will cover #1- #3 and prep you well for #4 in his basic classes.
http://guntactics.com/index.htm