Secession
Mrs Gun Guy recently had a poll,(update: results) and one of the questions referred to the gulf between liberals and conservatives. Little did I know (I really didn’t!) that that specific question was the crux of the poll!
I have begun to think that the gulf may never be wide enough until it becomes a geographic one. There is a growing feeling among those I know that until we are rid of the worst of the liberals in this country, we will always have trouble.
The idea of a new nation appeals to me. The idea of a separate nation of individuals, working together as individuals, with freedom of self the guiding principle.
The country we’re living in will do. Yeah, the framers of the constitution had it right, it works fine, we just need to get rid of those who would destroy our constitution and what it stands for.
Mostly, that seems to be the media. I don’t think the average American buys the crap most of the media puts out, but it’s so all pervasive and inundating that it seeps in regardless. I love Sean Hannity, but I cannot listen to his show, because his guests so infuriate me. I cannot believe anyone can be that stupid and live.
I dream of an America based on the Jeffersonian ideal; I think, fairly often, of an America divided as it is now, but also with a geographical divide, a split between the jeffersonians and the morons. We could have the west, they could have the east, whatever. I’m sick to death of having those idiots rule me. I also don’t think that the welfare-state folks can be self sustaining without the money of the jeffersonians, and I’d LOVE to see that put to the test.
Quebec has been trying to secede from Canada for a while now. I am sure there are a billion logistic obstacles to secession, but isn’t it a pretty dream?
Join the debate. Invite others. Let me know what you think.
i say we just deport the liberals, lawyers, and journalists (except for moxie) to the west bank. let them live their dream. and we can live ours. then you and i can man the border and shoot them as they try to re-enter the promise land.
Trouble is, we tried it once.
No telling what we will have if we try it again.
Rich
One of the most wonderful things about this nation is that you can have most any opinion and it’s okay.
It truly is one of the few freedoms we have left and I’m damn grateful that people can disagree with me and I can disagree with them and no one’s knocking on my door to haul me off to durance vile because I had a different point of view.
And I sure don’t want people getting hauled off or thrown out because they had a different point of view from someone else that was in a position of power or because they hold opinions not shared by certain people or groups of people.
The signal-to-noise ratio is really high these days and it’s bound to get higher with the advent of silly season.
I try to tune out most of it because while I disagree with nearly all of it (from all sides), it’s a semi-free country and they gotta right to say their piece. (Even though the shrillness and furor and tiny-minded bitchy snarkiness of it from all parts of the spectrum makes me wanna put ’em all in time out and send them to bed without their dinner for being so badly behaved.)
I don’t have to buy into it or regard it with relevance or meaning.
I just gotta respect their right to say it.
I wish more people did.
And I think that is exactly what that band of wild-haired wild-ass 1776 revolutionaries had in mind.
Jenny
your humble TubaDiva
Founding Fathers/Subversives? You decide. :)
I have no troubles with freedom of speech.
I have troubles with deliberate partisan propagandizing, and that is exactly what we see. Orson scott card? freedom of speech. Al Gore? Deliberate partisan propagandizing.
If the framers could see and hear al gore, they’d have been more careful how they worded that first amendment. It’s not their freedom of speech I am horribly concerned about either, it’s mine. The network news may not be as loud or as crazy looking as Algore, but the rhetoric is still there as is the intent: Remove all free speech but the free speech of Those Who Know Better. No thanks. I’ll stick to my dream of a separate jeffersonian state.